Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/02/1993 02:05 PM Senate O&G

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                 JOINT SENATE AND HOUSE SPECIAL                                
                    COMMITTEE ON OIL AND GAS                                   
                          March 2, 1993                                        
                            2:05 p.m.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  SENATE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                       
                                                                               
  Senator Loren Leman, Chairman                                                
                                                                               
  SENATE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                        
                                                                               
  Senator Rick Halford                                                         
  Senator Bert Sharp                                                           
  Senator Judith Salo                                                          
  Senator Al Adams                                                             
                                                                               
  HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                        
                                                                               
  Representative Joe Green, Chairman                                           
  Representative Harley Olberg                                                 
  Representative Jerry Sanders                                                 
  Representative Jerry Mackie                                                  
  Representative Gary Davis                                                    
  Representative Joe Sitton                                                    
                                                                               
  HOUSE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                         
                                                                               
  Representative Pete Kott                                                     
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  Presentation by Julian Darley, President BP Exploration AK                   
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  Julian Darley, President                                                     
  British Petroleum                                                            
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 93 - 4, SIDE A                                                          
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN  called  the Joint  Senate  and  House                 
  Special Committee on  Oil and Gas  meeting to order at  2:05                 
  p.m. saying the Senate members would join the Committee when                 
  the floor session  adjourned.  He introduced  Julian Darley,                 
  President,  British  Exploration Petroleum  AK, to  give his                 
  presentation.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 39                                                                    
                                                                               
  JULIAN DARLEY, said they have had a major transformation for                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  the  better  in their  business in  Alaska.   He said  it is                 
  continuing as  he speaks,  and will  continue to  evolve and                 
  develop for the  foreseeable future in  Alaska.  Just a  few                 
  years  ago  the  outlook  for   their  Alaska  business  was                 
  decidedly  not  very attractive.    But through  their major                 
  efforts, they changed their outlook for the better.                          
                                                                               
  He  said they  are  working very  hard to  produce 1,150,000                 
  barrels a day at Prudhoe which is nearly 25% off peak.   The                 
  costs of operating in that field are climbing at an alarming                 
  rate, both  in terms  of dollars  per barrel  and the  total                 
  amount  of  money BP  is spending.    He explained  they are                 
  producing more water and gas along  with the oil which costs                 
  money to handle and earns them nothing.                                      
                                                                               
  BP decided to try  to save their business in Alaska by doing                 
  business better.  This decision required a transformation in                 
  performance.  First they aimed at eliminating duplication by                 
  sharing common  services with  ARCO, the  other North  Slope                 
  operator,  and  this has  been  successful.   Secondly, they                 
  radically increased the effectiveness of what BP people were                 
  doing.  Thirdly, they formed business alliances with vendors                 
  and suppliers.   Fourthly, they looked at existing leases in                 
  active exploration in other areas of the North Slope.                        
                                                                               
  He  said  BP  is trying  to  build  an  ethic of  continuous                 
  improvement.  It  is improving its effectiveness  by drawing                 
  the  collective  goals  and objectives  of  the  people into                 
  greater alignment with the needs of their businesses.                        
                                                                               
  Number 181                                                                   
                                                                               
  They have  introduced a  program called  gain sharing  where                 
  they set specific targets  in each of the major  measures of                 
  their  business  performance  -  safety,  operating   costs,                 
  capital projects, environmental protection,  and production.                 
  They  try  to  match  incentives  with specific  performance                 
  targets for each multidisciplinary  team within the company.                 
  They are working  to introduce a  new style of working  with                 
  suppliers which is  collaborative or being open  about their                 
  planning and having close working relationships.                             
                                                                               
  MR. DARLEY said their contractors and  vendors have to learn                 
  with them to  act smarter  and with incentives  and to  earn                 
  their rewards by earning less of BPs money.                                  
                                                                               
  Number 309                                                                   
                                                                               
  He said they  can't do  much to change  the oil prices,  but                 
  they have done  a lot to slow down decline  in production at                 
  Prudhoe. These improvements have been delivered by extremely                 
  talented people  who have assessed actual  field performance                 
  and identified  ways to  produce them  more effectively  and                 
  with the vital  followup of spending money where  it's going                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  to generate more oil to build on the good ideas.                             
                                                                               
  Number 333                                                                   
                                                                               
  They have set themselves the target of keeping the operating                 
  cost per barrel flat for the  next years even though decline                 
  will  continue.  BP  now takes a  very positive  view of its                 
  Alaska business.                                                             
                                                                               
  Last  January  he   announced  that   BP  plans  to   resume                 
  exploratory drilling  on the  North Slope  this year.   They                 
  plan  on drilling three  wells and participate  in a fourth.                 
  This program  ends a hiatus  in their drilling.   It  is, in                 
  fact, the  largest drilling program they have had since 1985                 
  in state.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Yesterday  they announced  an  agreement  with Petrofina  in                 
  which  BP  will take  over  the  operation  of the  Bardarmi                 
  Discovery.  BP  plans to stay  in Alaska as a  producer, and                 
  investor, explorer, and operator, he reiterated.                             
                                                                               
  By the end  of this year the second gas  handling project in                 
  Prudhoe Bay, GHX 2 should be  installed and operating.  This                 
  will help them  maximize all  recovery production from  that                 
  field.  They are  paying half the  $1.3 billion cost.   They                 
  expect the GHX 2 to increase their ability to handle the gas                 
  that comes with the  oil from 5.3 billion cubic feet per day                 
  to 7.5 billion cubic  feet per day.  It is  the gas handling                 
  capacity that limits how much oil they get  up.  They expect                 
  to increase oil production by 100,000 barrels per day.  This                 
  is about the  equivalent of  a whole year's  decline at  the                 
  current rate.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 387                                                                   
                                                                               
  Other  investments are  ongoing  like development  drilling,                 
  workover of existing  wells, and expansion of  secondary and                 
  tertiary oil recovery programs.                                              
                                                                               
  MR. DARLEY said in the year 2000, 60%  of production will be                 
  from investments not yet made and in place.  He used a graph                 
  to  illustrate his point.  He said there is nothing to alter                 
  the fact  that oil  production at the  end of the  decade is                 
  going  to  be  below  today's  levels.    Although  by  most                 
  standards it will still be handsome.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 483                                                                   
                                                                               
  At Governor Hickel's Economic Summit  earlier this year, the                 
  most important lesson he learned is that there is still time                 
  for Alaska to choose from a number of  options over a period                 
  of time to get fiscal stability without a great deal of pain                 
  and dislocation.   The  choices need  to be  made and  acted                 
  upon.                                                                        
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 498                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DARLEY said that his real  concern was that Alaska would                 
  choose to raise oil  taxes instead of taking other  measures                 
  to balance its budget.  There is no doubt that raising taxes                 
  would  hurt  their  business.    He  believes  it  would  be                 
  counterproductive to the  state.  The  rich oil days of  the                 
  early 80s  and late  70s are  past.   He  said his  business                 
  projections are based  on stability and  oil taxation.   The                 
  attractiveness of  new investments must  compete with  other                 
  opportunities throughout the world.                                          
                                                                               
  They are  exposed to changes in the economic environment, to                 
  bad investment,  etc.   Each investment  decision they  make                 
  stands on its own and a raise in taxes would have a chilling                 
  affect on their attitude.                                                    
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-4, SIDE B                                                            
  Number 570                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN thanked him for his very good speech.                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR  LEMAN  asked if  him  to  comment on  the  proposed                 
  changes in exploration  leasing.  Mr.  Darley said they  are                 
  happy with the frontier basins type  of approach.  He didn't                 
  think that large tract leasing was helpful for such areas as                 
  the North Slope.   Confining his remarks to the  Canning and                 
  Colville areas he  said the current system  of licensing has                 
  served the state well and that drilling has taken place in a                 
  reasonable amount of time.                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE  MACKIE commented  that looking  at the  long                 
  term interests of  Alaskans, he  thought the partnership  he                 
  was  talking  about   needed  to   expand  to  include   the                 
  legislature  and other branches of government.  He asked him                 
  what  chance  ANWR had  of  being opened  under  the current                 
  administration.    MR. DARLEY  responded  that the  U.S. has                 
  gotten used  to importing  a large  portion of  its oil  and                 
  unless something  makes the nation uncomfortable  with that,                 
  it will  not be in  a great hurry to  go into areas  a large                 
  part of political constituency would  prefer to have closed.                 
  He said they should work to make  sure that area is not shut                 
  off as a wilderness and hopefully  get people up here to see                 
  how we do business  and to visit the Native  communities and                 
  see what  their  expectations  are and  what  is  needed  to                 
  deliver them.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 482                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN asked what he thought about the state's                 
  strong position in keeping the 90%  - 10% split of royalties                 
  with  the federal  government.   MR.  DARLEY  said they  are                 
  trying to stay out of that political issue.                                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 473                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES asked  if they were making  a tradeoff                 
  with natural gas in  keeping oil production up.   MR. DARLEY                 
  said there is no trade off.  The gas doesn't get wasted.                     
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN  asked  if  reducing  the  competition                 
  wouldn't ultimately turn around and result in higher prices.                 
  MR. DARLEY said  they will maintain  competition.  The  real                 
  prize  comes from  having  suppliers work  with  them to  do                 
  business better - working more efficiently and learning each                 
  others business.                                                             
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE  DAVIES said  in Alaska  there are  a lot  of                 
  small innovative companies which might go out of business if                 
  BP works with suppliers capable of handling large contracts.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 410                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. DARLEY said  they are  still contracting with  a lot  of                 
  different people with expertise.   They don't have cause  to                 
  think there is the kind of problem he mentioned.                             
                                                                               
  Number 387                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN thanked  him for joining the  Committee                 
  and said he  had to  attend another meeting  and turned  the                 
  gavel over to Senator Leman.                                                 
                                                                               
  SENATOR  LEMAN  asked  for questions  or  comments  from the                 
  audience.  There were  none and he adjourned the  meeting at                 
  3:10 p.m.                                                                    
                                                                               

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